On today’s podcast, we talk to the members of legendary bluegrass band Hot Rize: Tim O’Brien, Pete Wernick, Nick Forster and Bryan Sutton. The quartet—currently celebrating their 40th year as a band—talks to us about the early Colorado bluegrass scene, the instruments they’re currently using, Red Knuckles and the Trailblazers, songwriting and more. It’s an enlightening and hilarious chat with four bluegrass icons.

This week’s episode is sponsored by Dying Breed Music.